Salt Valley

Ben Egbert

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Rick and I met in Monticello on a Sunday afternoon. We then drove out the road to the Needles district and a few miles past Newspaper Rock we turned south on a variously named road, that we called Beef Basin East.

This road is a country road that you could drive in a sedan in good weather. It was 25 miles to a place that started Beef Basin road proper. That was in timbered country and 8200 Feet. A beautiful drive.

The next day we intended to follow that road to a place named Ruins Park and then onto Bobbies Hole. A notorious road that leads to the Devils lane portion of the Elephant Hill road.

But that first night was just an exploration and we turned around and drove back to Monticello. On the way we had a tremendous thunder storm and heavy rain. But we had no trouble and no fears of Mondays drive.

On Monday. We drove out to the Needles district for some sunrise and then back to Beef Basin Road. As we got a few miles in, it started to rain. This time the clay surface got very slick and our vehicles were all over the road even in 4WD, After crossing the pass and starting down Rick stopped and said what should we do? I said, turn around. At some point one of us got stuck in a water filled ditch and it took about 45 minuted to dig our way out.

We got over the pass and heading back down when we encountered 4 vans in the act or turning around. Another 45 minute delay.

By then the rain had stopped, but the road was so slick you could barely walk on it and our boots had a few pounds of mud on them. But we had intended to camp that night next to a place called Salt Valley. So we camped and were able to get these images.

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AlanLichty

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Nice backstory to read from my desk with no mud on my boots :) I hate it when every step adds another pound of mud to what's already stuck on your boots. Neat little valley with Aimee colorful formations. Nice sunset too.
 

Beth

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the sky is a bit ominous in the first. love the light on the rocks. the second two are very nice as well.
 

Ben Egbert

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Interesting terrain and nice images. Thanks for the back story as well.
Thanks Jameel. That story could have been much longer but this tells the gist of it.

Nice backstory to read from my desk with no mud on my boots :) I hate it when every step adds another pound of mud to what's already stuck on your boots. Neat little valley with Aimee colorful formations. Nice sunset too.
I just gpot me boots and truck clean and my hiking poles. My Parka is still dirty.

the sky is a bit ominous in the first. love the light on the rocks. the second two are very nice as well.
Thanks Pepper, the first is what we saw when we first arrived. Mid afternoon and some leftover clouds from the storm.
 
Rick and I met in Monticello on a Sunday afternoon. We then drove out the road to the Needles district and a few miles past Newspaper Rock we turned south on a variously named road, that we called Beef Basin East.

This road is a country road that you could drive in a sedan in good weather. It was 25 miles to a place that started Beef Basin road proper. That was in timbered country and 8200 Feet. A beautiful drive.

The next day we intended to follow that road to a place named Ruins Park and then onto Bobbies Hole. A notorious road that leads to the Devils lane portion of the Elephant Hill road.

But that first night was just an exploration and we turned around and drove back to Monticello. On the way we had a tremendous thunder storm and heavy rain. But we had no trouble and no fears of Mondays drive.

On Monday. We drove out to the Needles district for some sunrise and then back to Beef Basin Road. As we got a few miles in, it started to rain. This time the clay surface got very slick and our vehicles were all over the road even in 4WD, After crossing the pass and starting down Rick stopped and said what should we do? I said, turn around. At some point one of us got stuck in a water filled ditch and it took about 45 minuted to dig our way out.

We got over the pass and heading back down when we encountered 4 vans in the act or turning around. Another 45 minute delay.

By then the rain had stopped, but the road was so slick you could barely walk on it and our boots had a few pounds of mud on them. But we had intended to camp that night next to a place called Salt Valley. So we camped and were able to get these images.

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Ben, I love the color in these photos, I can look at these scenes until all hues fade.

Oliver
 

JimFox

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I can feel for you Ben! I have been on those same clay roads and when it's wet, I can attest that just walking in it will get you a couple of lbs of mud on each boot after just a step or two. At least the issues only caused you a delay or two and lead you into these awesome photos. You posted them in the order of my preference.
 

Ben Egbert

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Ben, I love the color in these photos, I can look at these scenes until all hues fade.

Oliver
Thanks Oliver, I see what you mean

I can feel for you Ben! I have been on those same clay roads and when it's wet, I can attest that just walking in it will get you a couple of lbs of mud on each boot after just a step or two. At least the issues only caused you a delay or two and lead you into these awesome photos. You posted them in the order of my preference.

Thanks Jim, it was all part of the adventure, and I loved every minute of this trip.
 

MonikaC

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What a near epic! Those clay roads get nasty really fast, and you're way in there. Is Salt Valley by Salt Creek? Cathedral Butte, trailhead to All American Man, Big Pocket area?
I used to climb at the Bridger Jacks & other crags around there, camping in the cottonwoods off Beef Basin Rd. Old stomping grounds. Many fond memories.
 

Ben Egbert

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What a near epic! Those clay roads get nasty really fast, and you're way in there. Is Salt Valley by Salt Creek? Cathedral Butte, trailhead to All American Man, Big Pocket area?
I used to climb at the Bridger Jacks & other crags around there, camping in the cottonwoods off Beef Basin Rd. Old stomping grounds. Many fond memories.
This is the place we were close to Briger Jack
 

rfkiii

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This is the place we were close to Briger Jack
Hi Ben. I believe we camped in the shadow of Cathedral Butte. The trailhead Monika is speaking of may have been the one we first checked out before we decided to camp about 1/10 of a mile back up the road. Your images are great. That's why I do not follow you with my shots. :)

Confession: I am the one who got stuck in the mud. I slid sideways into a low spot in the road and came to rest against the bank the graders make.
 

Ben Egbert

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Hi Ben. I believe we camped in the shadow of Cathedral Butte. The trailhead Monika is speaking of may have been the one we first checked out before we decided to camp about 1/10 of a mile back up the road. Your images are great. That's why I do not follow you with my shots. :)

Confession: I am the one who got stuck in the mud. I slid sideways into a low spot in the road and came to rest against the bank the graders make.
I think that trail went down to salt canyon but I know we were close to cathedral butte

I was not going to incriminate you but now the cat is out of the bag
 

Kurt Harrigan

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I really like that first one, Ben. I had no idea there was terrain like that near Needles. I guess I assumed that area was more of your typical flatter Mojave with creosote bush and other low growing brush. How long did it take you to get there, btw?
 

Ben Egbert

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I really like that first one, Ben. I had no idea there was terrain like that near Needles. I guess I assumed that area was more of your typical flatter Mojave with creosote bush and other low growing brush. How long did it take you to get there, btw?

Thanks Kurt. On a good day without rain, it's about an hour from Monticello. I was never impressed with the Needles area the good stuff is south of the visitor center and off the paved roads. But when you venture there it's really impressive.
 

Kurt Harrigan

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Thanks Kurt. On a good day without rain, it's about an hour from Monticello. I was never impressed with the Needles area the good stuff is south of the visitor center and off the paved roads. But when you venture there it's really impressive.
Is that up in northern California? I was thinking Needles near Havasu.......
 

Ben Egbert

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Sorry Kurt this is the needles district of Canyon Lands NP in south eastern Utah
 
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