Lets Play 3/9/2018

AlanLichty

Moderator
Thanks! Yeah, you do have the advantage of actually seeing the pyramid too, so you would be able to get the color of the pyramid more realistic then the rest of us. And it didn't hit me right away, but I think the idea of converting just the Pyramid to B&W and then color balancing the pyramid back to the exact color it should be could be an approach you could take here with this.

Maybe tomorrow morning post your effort on it? Or maybe even another shot where it shows the true colors better? And then we can all see how close we got.
I actually tried one in color using RAW adjustments. I will post it in the morning.
 

JimFox

Moderator
Staff member
I do have another shot of this specific face of Khafre's pyramid so it shows the color quite well. This pyramid is not quite the same color as Kufu's (The Great Pyramid). This pyramid is a bit darker. I can post that anytime. Its not a spectacular comp and is more of a snapshot while we were approaching the pyramid.
Sure do that, it would be cool to see another view of it.
 

AlanLichty

Moderator
Here is my own effort at a rework.

I created a virtual copy of the image in Lightroom and left one alone for the sky. On the second one I brought the exposure up and then worked over the color balance to get to a workable color temp and tint. I used the brush tool on the flare discoloration and readjusted the color balance of the brush to bring it to the same range as the rest of the pyramid face. I brought the image and the virtual copy into Photoshop as layers and blended the layers. I did some sharpening as well as burn and dodge to get the final appearance closer to something that looks realistic.

Khafre5.jpg
 

JimFox

Moderator
Staff member
Hey Alan, that's interesting to see the other shot from there. Your edit now is definitely closest in terms of coloring. You have the flaring corrected quite well, and keeping the edits separate from the sky is definitely the way to go.

One last thing I would suggest. If you look at our final edit, you will notice that the contrast in each of the 3 corners of the pyramid are greater then the whole middle of it now. I would do one final edit where you just raised the contrast of the whole pyramid minus the 3 corners to even out the contrast on the pyramid.
 

AlanLichty

Moderator
I looked at the contrasts carefully when I was doing mine and took note of the fact that this pyramid is not a uniform face at all. Originally the whole thing had a facade on it like the top. Other than the top the face of the pyramid had crumbled away and is very uneven especially at the corners. If you look at the second image of the pyramid I posted as a reference you can see that the bottom corners actually protrude a bit compared to the middle of the face so I was thinking that their should be more relief/shadows down there especially given the sun angle.

Kufu's pyramid is different construction and the faces are much more uniform. It was a more simple technique for building one of these and has withstood the elements longer.

Here is some increased contrast (and clarity) to the suggested areas. I will probably do one more pass from the scanned slide given what I know is possible now to clean up a few odds and ends I don't quite like but aren't notable at this size.

Khafre6.jpg
 

JimFox

Moderator
Staff member
Well, this has been a fun project and I have enjoyed seeing everyones efforts and also how you have been able to refine the image.
 

AlanLichty

Moderator
This is pretty much borderline between photography and digital art when we start pushing the reconstruction this far. An interesting task....
 

Ben Egbert

Forum Helper
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This is pretty much borderline between photography and digital art when we start pushing the reconstruction this far. An interesting task....
Not if we are only taking it to what we see in person. It's not our fault the technology can't do that without help. I only call it digital art when we push it into something that was not seen. And I have no problen with that either, but I make the distinction.
 

AlanLichty

Moderator
Not if we are only taking it to what we see in person. It's not our fault the technology can't do that without help. I only call it digital art when we push it into something that was not seen. And I have no problen with that either, but I make the distinction.
I like that definition.
 

AlanLichty

Moderator
I am going to stroll in the direction of calling this an imaginative interpretation of the scene :)

It did however make me take another look at my last edit and I now want to desaturate the pyramid face quite a bit. Way too much color for that subject.
 

Rick Schump

Well-Known Member
I am going to stroll in the direction of calling this an imaginative interpretation of the scene :)

It did however make me take another look at my last edit and I now want to desaturate the pyramid face quite a bit. Way too much color for that subject.
As stated I am exploring a new software program since my NIK has died on me. Not a direction I would normally go.
 
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