Todays experiment

[Ben Egbert]

Today I set up my R5 and 5dsr side by side and did in camera time line videos of 600 shots at 3 second intervals. I should have started later or ran longer as the videos ended just as the light was getting interesting.

I am showing both to see if you eagle eyes can see any difference in quality. The R5 was done at 4k, but both were converted at the standard good quality in Movavi.

5DSR

R5

CC welcome

 

[JimFox]

They both look pretty good and about the same from a quick glance before I run out the door. Did the 5DSR handle the changing light maybe a little better?

You should have just started the timelapses a 2nd time as that light was getting really good Ben.

 

[Ben Egbert]

Battery was dead in one camera. The light was easy for the 5dsr but it does not change exposure so it would have turned dark. The R5 does not AF during TL so you don’t need to turn it off

 

[AlanLichty]

I couldn't see that much difference between them.

 

[Ben Egbert]

The starting exposure was a bit darker in the 5DSR, and would have gone completely dark after the light left the mountain. The 5DSR would be a great candidate for in camera TL if it only had image by image exposure.

I also tried some jpg time interval shots during the day. This solves the problem of exposure, but with mush larger files size. I am also having some problem finding a good time setting. I did 3 second intervals and the uses 0.14 for speed in Movavi. This seemed to work. But it varies. The in camera TL always look smoother.

If I was at a special hard to get to place with a once in a lifetime event. I could set up my 5R for in camera TL and when the light got optimum, switch to stills for that still capture. I could have the 5DSR in movie mode for later speed up in Movavi. The problem is huge files, but sine the 5DRS takes cheaper cards, I could just get a 256GB sd for the purpose.

This is still a work in progress.

 

[Jameel Hyder]

Both are nice Ben. Subtle differences in the way the two cameras handle the scene are pretty obvious.

 

[JimFox]

I agree Ben with your conclusions. I still need to run both my D810 and D850 through sunset to see how they handle the change in light. I could set up my D610 to do the jpg Timelapse, since it’s only 24mp the files won’t be too huge.

A couple of things I have learned or are considering...

1. I might pull my ND Grads out again to help even out the exposure since intricate processing might be too hard or time consuming.

2. Movavi does a great job with putting videos together, but it’s Shadow adjustment is horrible and not worth doing.

3. Photoshop can be used to globally edit video clips. Just turn them into a smart object, and then under Filters you can choose Camera Raw to edit it, or you can use most of Photoshops other editing tools like curves, etc.

3A. With the Photoshop Smart Object, I wonder if Layer Masking or Masking can be used on the video?

4. The banding that’s occasionally seen comes from videos being processed internally at 8 bit in our DSLRs. It doesn’t seem like there is anything that can be changed to prevent it if using in camera TL or video.

 

[Ben Egbert]

Hey Jim, the idea of editing videos in Photoshop is great, but I can't get them to load. I am a smart object idiot. But now I am intrigued.

I am about to place an order for two 256gb SD cards. I can't do 4K videos on my R5 to and SD, needs an SD express. But smaller ones work and I think we have determined that we don't need such high quality.

I did a movie with the 5DSR this morning and then processed it in Movavi. 800% was still too slow, but you can bring the saved 800% back into movavi and run it again at 800% to get a faster cloud movement. I did several tests. 800% followed by 400%. Movavi tops out at 1000%

Been having issues getting my files to run after conversion. When I try to open it, I get a message (cannot open because the is no audio device found)

The later it will open???

I also found you have to allow load to finish before doing any next operation.

 

[JimFox]

Photoshop for sure huffs and puffs with videos.

I can detail the process with the smart object later.

 

[Ben Egbert]

Ok, I was able to open a movie files from Photoshop using open as batch file. I was then able to use ACR RAW filter to make some tweakes. But there was no way to save it. Remember I don't have export.>Render video?H-264. I only have still output formats.

Also, I can save 4K to an SD card in the R5 just not 8K. My movies in the 5DSR are 1920x whatever.