Valley of Fire

Discussion in 'Landscape' started by Kyle Jones, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. Kyle Jones

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    Here's an image from the Fire Wave that I took in Feb 2019 during my one and only visit to this wonderful state park. I now have time to go back and process images I've skipped from various trips, which is kind of fun. Any thoughts are welcome.

    9812 Valley of Fire_850.jpg
     
  2. AlanLichty

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    Colorful take on that formation. Not an easy target to shoot since it's a small part of a larger scene. I like your late day overcast light - much nicer than direct light for the colors there and the clouds are a nice addition to the view
     
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    Great formations and color. Your light is perfect for these formations.
     
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    Beautiful!
     
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    I like this little different twist on VoF you got Kyle. I would only do something about the lower right corner where it has a dark circle of shade? Other wise this is super cool.
     
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    A really nice and different take here. The light really brought out the colors well. And yes that dark circle can be easily cloned out. Good work.
     
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    Yeah, I was thinking about that dark circle. I guess I have to take action after all.
     
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    It is a very nice image, the quality you usually deliver. My question relates more to composition, asking because I see you have done it here. Bringing elements in from the corners, I like to bring in from corners, I feel like it leads the eye in on a smooth path. But I have gotten quite a bit of kickback from locals about that, and then Ben Horne was talking about avoiding it in his DV trip. I thought it might be an interesting discussion here. As others have said, that scrub in the bottom right does effect that flow from the corner.
     
  9. Kyle Jones

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    Here's an updated version with the scrub that was creeping in from the bottom right removed.

    9812 Valley of Fire_850.jpg


    To a large degree I tend to compose by intuition. I move around until the elements in the scene feel "balanced". In this case I have the best swirls on the left, another strong structure on the right, and a decent sky above. I tend to go back and forth with elements (like paths out water) leading in from a corner versus from an edge. I've never really bought into the idea that corners pull the eye out of the scene.

    In this case, once I felt the other elements were reasonably balanced that apparent path was in the corner. I can live with that...

    I'd be interested in other thoughts as well. Thanks for the comment!
     
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    I am with Kyle here in that as I look around the scene a particular composition triggers an emotional response and I go with that. I do a few variations of that and later when I look at them, one or more of them feel stronger than others. I tend to not over analyse from the perspective of certain rules of composition. Sometimes they work, others not so much.

    The edit is nice as it removes a distraction. Sometimes I would intentionally capture an image with things I don't like with the idea of eliminating that in post later since the rest of the image looks compelling.
     
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    Kyle.. nice, The 2nd version without the scrub is better in my opinion.

    excellent discussion about composition ..
    I keep 2 thoughts in my head when composing.. Dynamic & Static in this case I use dynamic to mean engaging and static to be sort of flat.
    When I feel like the image has achieved a dynamic feeling then I have usually got what I want .. of course this is the simplified version :) As for leading the viewer around the image .. every image is different so I don't believe you can rule out anything on how you intend to bring the viewer into your image
     
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    Nicely done here with an unusual view of this famous location. I agree that removing the shrub in the lower right hand corner really helps the image.
     

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